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BlankMind35
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright ill try to put this info to my entry to improve it.


thanks guys for tolerating my many questions lol
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, it's no problem. I'm glad to answer questions. We appreciate the fact that you're paying attention to this sort of detail in the first place.

Now I'm going to sleep so I won't have anything more for you tonight, so don't think I'm ignoring you Razz .
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to say thanks for setting up this contest, and thanks for clarifying the maximum word count, I'm in the first stage of proofreading and at 6,350. Razz
I just have one question: Could we post our stories elsewhere (Myspace, other forums we go to, etc), both to spread our works and to get feedback, or are we not allowed to do so until after the judging period is over?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a quick question, what If were relatively new to writing stories? Will you take into account effort? Like it took me a while to write mine because I went into the book and checked times and what not I just want to make sure that i'm not excluded because Chief over there is writing a 6000+ word story.

and thanks for holding this contest because it gives me a chance to make up something I've always wanted to try, halo fiction, it has been fun and its all thanks to you guys think of me giving u a high five haha
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ween14 wrote:
I have a quick question, what If were relatively new to writing stories? Will you take into account effort? Like it took me a while to write mine because I went into the book and checked times and what not I just want to make sure that i'm not excluded because Chief over there is writing a 6000+ word story.


Your effort shows through in how your story turns out. If you're checking books to make sure that all of your facts are accurate, that will improve your story in the eyes of the judges. Say there are two stories of equal length and writing quality: one is well-researched canon-compliant, while the other says that Master Chief and Linda got it on to produce super babies. The canonically correct story should win out. As for short stories, like we say in the rules: writing a longer story gives you more words to create your story and maybe give a better image, however, a shorter story may be able to do that equally well minus flowery language and pointless words.

Example:

-The Chief shouldered the SRS-99C Sniper Rifle and fired at an Elite Major. He slumped to the ground, dead, as his squad erupted into chaos.

-The Master Chief, John-117, the last remaining Spartan, picked up a UNSC SRS-99C Sniper Rifle System. He took aim at an Elite Major, a Covenant commander, and opened fire with a 7.62mm Ultra-Discarding Sabot Round Metal Armor Piercing Bullet Slug. The Elite died.

Which do you think is better?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kabu says: these aren't written in stone. You can do shorter hallucinatory bits, sometimes, and redshirts can be fun, especially in comedy. My favorite technique is to use ubermarines as redshirts that die horribly in the first few paragraphs Razz. be very careful, though.
In addition, there are various things you should try and avoid, such as the following (see this thread for a more comprehensive dictionary of writing jargon and things to avoid):

  • Mary-Sue-type characters: Characters who are idealised, perfect, too good to be true and clichéd in every way. If you're coming up with an original character in fan fiction, I suggest using the Universal Mary-Sue Litmus Test. (Don't forget that Mary-Sues can be male, too.) General red flags that a Mary-Sue might be lurking include the canon universe being conveniently manipulated for the character's sake, or him/her not having an individual personality (or a personality very similar to your own).
  • Gun porn/weapon wankery: Endless description of characters' weapons and the total carnage they wreak, or the creation of implausibly powerful weapons.
  • Übermarine syndrome: Where an ordinary soldier starts exhibiting implausible, Master Chief-like qualities for no readily apparent reason (or a reason that will be revealed 'later'). Effectively wankery applied to a person.
  • Redshirts: Nameless, backgroundless characters whose sole purpose is to be killed off to make the protagonist seem even stronger when he destroys the threat.
  • Deus ex machina: literally "god from the machine" or "divine influence," when a god comes down and resolves a situation a character can't find their way out of. This is the most extreme example: lesser examples involve characters suddenly finding an unexpected solution to a problem by sheer luck.
  • Deus ex somnium: the clichéd ending where the main character wakes up and finds it was all a dream. DO NOT USE THE DREAM ENDING.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay2645 wrote:
I just have one question: Could we post our stories elsewhere (Myspace, other forums we go to, etc), both to spread our works and to get feedback, or are we not allowed to do so until after the judging period is over?


It wouldn't be fair to tell you what to do on the Rest of the internet, though I'd prefer you don't post it for writing feedback. So keep it away from a writing critiqe forum like hboff, but if you just want it to be read, that's fine.

As for eb's list, there are always times that some of that can be used, mostly for comedy. For example, I like setting up ubermarine Mary-Sues that die horribly in the first paragraph.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey kabu.

Our latest entrant resubmitted within a couple hours of his original submission with what he felt was a better-edited version (I haven't looked at either yet so I can't say). But he was asking if we would accept the edited version, and I wasn't sure if we'd established much of a rule on resubmitting, so I figured I'd defer to you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say we take the newer one. The practice should be discouraged, but we should see people's best efforts. Maybe on a case-by-case basis.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I was thinking. Maybe we could give a 12 or 24 hour grace period or something.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 14th Wonder wrote:
That's what I was thinking. Maybe we could give a 12 or 24 hour grace period or something.


That sounds like a good idea to me. A one day grace period sounds very reasonable.

Anyway, another suggestion to potential entrants is to finish your entry, then leave it for a few weeks (this process is known as "letting it breathe") before looking back at it. Chances are, if the plot is crap, and/or there are gaping inconsistencies, Mary-Sue characters, gun porn, ubermarines, wankery or spelling errors, then if you didn't notice them before, you'll certainly notice them now.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just a quick question.

Since out fanfics will be based off of an 'M' rated game, do we have to watch our language?

Don't take my wrong, I'm not planning on making my ODST character into a sailor version of Marcus Fenix, but a little language at times helps to convey a sense of confidence, arrogance, or urgency.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, there's nothing wrong with being expressive in your fiction. It allows the reader to feel the emotions of your character more realistically. Just don't overuse it. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StevieTopSiders wrote:


Example:

-The Master Chief, John-117, the last remaining Spartan, picked up a UNSC SRS-99C Sniper Rifle System. He took aim at an Elite Major, a Covenant commander, and opened fire with a 7.62mm Ultra-Discarding Sabot Round Metal Armor Piercing Bullet Slug. The Elite died.


haha thats funny because that is pretty much an exact thing that happens although it's an ODST sniper with his SRS99C-S2 AM Sniper Rifle, and thanks for the reply.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ween14 wrote:
StevieTopSiders wrote:


Example:

-The Master Chief, John-117, the last remaining Spartan, picked up a UNSC SRS-99C Sniper Rifle System. He took aim at an Elite Major, a Covenant commander, and opened fire with a 7.62mm Ultra-Discarding Sabot Round Metal Armor Piercing Bullet Slug. The Elite died.


haha thats funny because that is pretty much an exact thing that happens although it's an ODST sniper with his SRS99C-S2 AM Sniper Rifle, and thanks for the reply.


Isn't the SRS-99C 14.5x115mm APFSDS?

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